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Cartomancy with Playing Cards | Eight of Clubs

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In cartomancy with playing cards, the Eight of Clubs (8♣) is the card of work.

Eight Clubs (black), from the Playing Cards series (N84) for Duke brand cigarettes by W. Duke, Sons & Co. is licensed under CC-CC0 1.0

All eights in cartomancy represent people as well as the type of environment they are in. They also represent conscience.

The Eight of Clubs represents a group of workers, but more broadly it signifies working people and the common folk. In XIX Italy, the common folk used to be mostly made up of peasants, so this is the card of peasants, either literal peasants or people who need to work for a living.

As an extension of this, the Eight of Clubs can be a significator card for the querent’s job or the querent’s work environment. Often, a Face card falling next to the Eight of Clubs represents either a colleague or a boss. Like most Club cards, the Eight of Clubs represents the idea of effort. While other cards can represent the querent’s job by hinting at the fact that the querent is being paid for it (Three, Seven, Eight of Diamonds, for instance) the Eight of Clubs signifies the querent’s job because that’s where he needs to make an effort and expend energy.

The Eight of Clubs also points to planned actions and actions done in full conscience. This can be good or bad, depending on the context. For instance, if the querent asked if the partner actually meant to cheat on them or it just happened as a silly mistake, the Eight of Clubs confirms that the cheating was deliberately planned.

In love readings, the Eight of Clubs represents effort expended to keep the relationship steady, which, with negative cards, can imply a sense of fatigue. With positive cards, however, it shows commitment.

Psychologically, it shows someone to be serious and hard-working, but with negative cards it can support the idea of someone who has a clear hidden agenda that they are executing.

Some Combinations:

8♣ – A♥ = working from home or working on homes (e.g. a builder or contractor)
8♣ – 10♠ = it can mean working night shifts
9♣ – 8♣ = the need to commute, among other possible explanations
8♣ – 2♥ = working near home or a new job coming your way
8♣ – K♠ = can signify a work in a public office (if also J♠, a work where you wear a uniform)

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Playing Cards and Numerology – The Eights

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The eights in cartomancy with playing cards represent people, consciousness/conscience and the concept of time. They show how we relate to other people and how we interact with them. In studying other systems of cartomancy, I’ve been struck by how similar my approach to the Eights is to the hedgewytchery system. Look it up for a comparison. I also find them quite similar to the eights of the Sibilla.

The Eight of Hearts is the card of cheerfulness. It represents optimism, satisfaction, good outcomes and the gathering of people to celebrate, public holidays, etc. It represents things done with a positive intent in mind, positive thinking in general, honesty, choosing the high road. It is also a flirtatious card and it is connected with watery places, possibly because in Italy people tend to turn flirtatious during the summer months while tanning on the beach (this card is somewhat similar to the Hope card in the Vera Sibilla). Broadly, it symbolizes peace. It is connected with relatives and with people taking an interest in the querent, as well as to the clergy.

The Eight of Clubs is representative of working people, the “common folk”, although more specifically it relates to the peasantry, and by extension it signifies work. There are other cards that can signify employment (Three, Seven, Eight of Diamonds, for instance) but in the case of the Eight of Clubs, work is seen as how people who don’t have the luxury of wasting the day sitting on their hands or soapboxing on Twitter spend their time. The card is connected to the fields and to the countryside. It is also the card of things done according to a plan or knowing full well what their consequences are, for better or worse.

The Eight of Diamonds is the card of business. It’s all things that bring in money or we invest money in. Because this card signifies where money comes from and where it is headed (compare to the Eight of Diamonds in the Sibilla), and because for most people money comes from working, this is another possible work card. It represents financial markets, banks and the bourgeoisie, as well as the city as an environment (usually not the querent’s city, though). The card represents investments, savings, transactions etc. depending on where it falls. It shows concerns with money and can imply aridity or ulterior motives, or, more neutrally, thinking about yourself and about your “business”.

The Eight of Spades is the card of tears. It represents the falling through of plans and the shattering of hopes and desperation in general. But this is also a card of negative thoughts, and of things done with the intent to hurt. Ill-will and malice are indicated. It can represent difficulties with other people, interpersonal trouble. It also has a connection with groups of spade-like people, such as armies, juries, medical teams, adjudicating boards, committees and all those situations where there are people who have the querent by the balls (in war it would represent a siege). The card is connected to isolated places in general.

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Vera Sibilla | Eight of Clubs – Reunion (Riunione)

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Name: Reunion
Italian Name: Riunione
Playing Card: 8♣
Polarity when Upright: Positive
Core Meanings: Positive development | Meeting | Positive relationships | Reconciliation, Getting back, Recovery, Return
Polarity when Reversed: Negative
Reversed Core Meanings: Breakup, Negative relationships | Doubts, Pangs, Vacillation | Depression

Card Description: a man meets with his beloved in the countryside.

Suit and Number: the eights in the Vera Sibilla a cards of balance and the reaching of balance. In the suit of Clubs, this is interpeted as balanced and positive social interactions, positive developments and, recovery and recuperation.

UPRIGHT 8♣

General: This is known as the reconciliation card. It is also the card of dates and appointments and it signifies positive developments in all areas of life. The core idea you can visualize with this card is that two become one, whether it’s a person who’s away coming back or money you’ve been parted from. There is a sense of re-, the restoration of a former balance.

Love and Relationships: many querents ask about reconciliation with an ex. Of course, the cards are capable of showing reconciliation in more than one way, but this is the card that most often comes up. It signifies getting back toghether with people after a breakup or after not seeing them for a while (a high school reunion, for instance). It is the card of dates and appointments, it signifies positive social interactions, being welcome somewhere, agreements, compromises, getting along fine, etc. Couples who’ve been through a rough patch will get back their mojo. If you ask about a person’s attitude toward you, it is positive and constructive and they are willing to meet you halfway.

Work and Money: often the Eight of Clubs signifies interviews, appointments and similar situations. The surrounding cards will tell you how it goes. At other times it shows a cooperative work enviroment. Money-wise, the card can point to getting back money that is owed you and to positive developments in the field. Careers are often centered around social interaction or they are jobs connected with the countryside.

Other: just as the Eight of Hearts is the card of water, the Eight of Clubs is the card of the land, especially the countryside. It is especially auspicious for court cases, which will be resolved to the querent’s advantage. Psychologically it is a card of constructive behavior, being sociable, feeling welcome and at peace. Spiritually it can show meeting like-minded people and positive developments in general. It’s one of the cards that can signify “two of the same”, such as two jobs, two babies, etc.

Important Combinations:
8♣ + 10♣ = momentary reconciliation, it won’t last
4♠ + 8♣ = healing
2♦ + 8♣ = invitation to a date, interview, etc.
3♥ + 4♥ + 8♣ = reconciliation
K♠ + 8♣ = good resolution of legal and bureaucratic issues

REVERSED8♣R

General: Very negative, though not necessarily of long duration. It heralds misunderstandings, rifts between people, feeling torn, regrets, etc. it also intensifies the negative import of negative cards.

Love and Relationships: A peculiar behavior of the reversed Eight of Clubs is that if reverses the querent’s expectations about social interactions: if you expect a meeting to go well, it goes badly, and vice versa. More often than not, though, it points to canceled meetings, disagreements, disunity among groups of people and feeling unwelcome or not accepted. It can also show the impossibility of a compromise, and it definitely negates a reconciliation.

Work and Money: often this card shows the social side of the issue, pointing to negative work groups, colleges, etc. It also shows money that is lost forever without the possibility of getting it back. It shows someone who doesn’t have the motivation to do what is required of them.

Other: psychologically, the reversed Eight of Clubs is a card of regrets, being torn, indecisive and even a pushover. It is also a card of depression and the inability to react to the environment. It shows lack of adaptability. It is also very bad for legal issues.

Important Combinations:
8♣R + 8♥R = depression
8♣R + A♥R = not getting along with people
8♣R + 7♠ = arguments, breakup
8♣R + K♦ + J♠ + Q♠ = nasty colleagues
8♣R + K♠U/R = loss of a lawsuit

Other combinations: Vera Sibilla | Examples of Combinations – The Eights

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Vera Sibilla | Examples of Combinations – The Eights

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In this article you will find some examples of combinations using the Vera Sibilla. Most of these combinations are handed down by tradition. Studying and decoding combinations is a very good way to improve your cartomantic vocabulary, but bear in mind that the exact meaning of a combination depends on many other factors, such as the context of the question and the other cards in the spread, so I would encourage you to keep an open mind. As a rule, you will find that if you do not pose a question and these combinations come up, they will mean what the tradition says they mean 3 times out of 5. Also, keep in mind that it’s useless to try to combine every card with every other card beforehand so that no surprises will ever come up in a spread, just as it is useless to try to combine every word in a dictionary with every other to study a language. That time is best spent actually practicing.

NOTE:
R = Reversed
U/R = Upright or Reversed (doesn’t matter)
* = This combination has to come up in this specific order
3♦ = The Gift (Omaggio)
8♦ = The Handmaid (Donna di Servizio)
C = Cuori (Hearts)
F = Fiori (Clubs)
Q = Quadri (Diamonds)
P = Picche (Spades)

Eight of Hearts (8♥) – Hope (Speranza)

8♥ + A♥ or 9♣ = a meeting by the water (with the A♥, among many other possibilities, it would represent prayers, that is, words -A♥- of faith -8♥- or simply a meeting or talk going well)
8♥ + 3♥ = a long distance, possibly abroad | the arrival of something you hope for
8♥ + 4♥ = realization of romantic hopes, but often a love that was born as a flirt (if it were 9♥ instead, it would be better, showing success in love)
8♥ + 6♥ = an investment (because the 8♥ rules liquids and therefore liquid assets, and because investments are something that you hope will bear fruit, something your hopes hinge on; if also 6♣, the investment flourishes, if it’s reversed, then it is lost, but if it is reversed and followed by positive cards it may show that it won’t be great but you’ll not lose everything)
10♣ or 9♦ + 8♥ + 6♥ + 5♣ = a risky investment that pays off


8♥ + 6♥ + 7♦R + 6♣ = an investment that grows slowly
8♥ + 3♣ = can be a boat, among many other interpretations
8♥ + 3♣ + 9♣ = a trip to the beach
8♥ + 6♣ = if you loaned money, you’ll get it back
8♥ + 10♣ = a flirt, a dalliance


A♦ + 8♥ + 10♠R = a private hope you don’t talk about and keep secret
8♥ + 2♦ = a hoped for message | a sacred text
8♥ + 7♦ = it’s a symbol of maternity and breastfeeding | can be a childhood dream or wishing for a baby, among many possible interpretations
8♥ + 9♦ = a foolish hope or unforeseen setbacks marring the realization of the hope
8♥ + 5♠ = hope that will not be realized


2♠ + 8♥ = an old hope
8♥ + K♠ = among other meanings, this combination represents religion | also a priest
Negative cards + 8♥* = things clearing up or starting to look up. It’s a symbol of protection. However much may be taken from you, you’ll come out of it with a glimmer of hope
Positive cards + 8♥* = realization
8♥ + negative cards = the hope or wish is denied
Person + 8♥* = the hope belongs to the person
8♥ + Person* = the hope centers around that person

A♥ or 8♣ + 8♥R = a meeting, talk, reconciliation going up in smoke
8♥R + 6♥ + A♠ or 5♦ = an old disappointment that has left us scarred
7♥ + 8♥R = traditionally, the possibility of a contract going up in smoke
2♦ + 8♥R = a message that won’t arrive or whose content will leave you without hope | in the appropriate context, a book with anti-spiritual or dark contents


5♦ + 8♥R = disappointment bordering on depression
6♦R + 8♥R = depression | atheism (also with 6♦U)
8♥R + K♠R + 9♦ = a cult (3♠R may be present to show rituals but also negative groups)
10♣ + 8♥R = things going up in smoke due to carelessness | can mean promiscuity

Eight of Clubs (8♣) – Reunion (Riunione)

3♥ + 4♥ + 8♣ = the most classical combination of reconciliation
6♥ + 8♣ = positive financial evolution or meetings | getting back your money if you loaned it
10♥ + 8♣ * = a reconciliation that will require persistence
A♣ + 8♣ = can be a partnership (4♣ may be present, K♠ too)
6♣ + 8♣ = unexpected reconciliation or meeting or appointment


8♣ + 10♣ = traditionally, a reconciliation that is only momentary, not lasting (usually, the same old problems will resurface) | this is valid for other topics as well
A♦ + 8♣ + 10♠R = meeting in secret, a secret meeting place
2♦ + 8♣ = invitation to a meeting
K♦ + 8♣ = working two jobs | getting along with your colleagues
4♠ + 8♣ = healing


7♠ + 6♠R + 8♣ = constantly fighting and then getting back together | can also mean that a clarification will bring improvement or reconciliation
A♥ + K♠ + 8♣ = winning a trial. In general, it’s positive for any official situation

3♥U/R + 8♣R = you won’t get back together
5♥U/R + 8♣R = not getting along with your relatives
10♥ + 8♣R = trying hard to get back together but not succeeding
A♣U/R + 8♣R + 2♥U/R = an ill-assorted couple
8♣R + 8♥R or 4♠ or 5♦ or Q♣R= depression, feeling very down
K♦ + 8♣R = interpersonal problems at work
8♣R + 2♠R = inability to get along, to find common ground

Eight of Diamonds (8♦) – Handmaid (Donna di Servizio)

A♣ + 8♦ = traditionally, the dowry, but unless you’re reading for the royal family it will usually mean something else, like a job offer or a contract with good prospects
8♦ + K♦ = can be a (female) colleague from work | evolution of your career or a job offer | it can also mean an expansion of an activity | for a business person, it would be the money coming from the clients
8♦ + 2♠ = traditionally, a visit
8♦ + 5♠ = traditionally, getting out of a difficult period or a period of mourning
8♦ + Person = someone with high morals or values or standards (or money)

8♦ + J♣ = colleagues (if K♣ instead, a man and a woman occupying different positions, he might be the boss)
8♦ + 10♠ = can be a woman in uniform
8♦ + K♠ = usually a loan or money given by the authority
8♦ + 7♦ = baby sitter | a new job or evolution toward new things
8♦ + 10♣ = little value or unexpected expenses

8♦R + K♠ = taxes, money owed to the government or other institution, money not received from the government
8♦R + 4♥ = one who is unreliable in love (could be cheating as well)
8♦R + 10♠ = could be a fine, among other things
8♦R + Q♣ = frivolous young woman (in general, beware of people with the 8♦R next to them)


8♦R + 6♥R = money going out (+8♠, lots of it)
8♦R + 2♥ = petty arguments in the family or among neighbors
8♦R + J♦R = gossip
8♦R + Q♠ = petty, vindictive woman, usually with a sharp tongue (with Q♣ she would be a rather cheap girl)
10♥R + 8♦R = can be one whose anger is easily roused by silly things (basically every court show defendant or plaintiff)

Eight of Spades (8♠) – Desperation and Jealousy (Disperato per Gelosia)

A♥ + 8♠ = critical moment in your close relationships | expressing criticism, disapproval, group of people that is negative for the querent
6♥ + 8♠ = critical moment in the finances
6♥R + 8♠ = heavy losses | can mean possessiveness
8♠ + 4♥ = jealousy or envy in love | crisis in love
8♥R + 8♠ = tears, depression, hopes falling through


K♥U/R + 3♥R + 8♠ = jealous and dangerous husband or man (with Q♦, dangerous wife)
A♣ + 8♠ = marriage crisis | can be a jealous partner (even a business partner)
2♣R + 4♦ + 8♠ = among other interpretations, evil eye
7♣R + 8♠ = loss of status or certainties in life
8♠ + A♠ + 10♠ = jealousy and violence


8♠ + 10♠R = ill will you don’t know about
6♦ + 8♠ = projects falling through | one who is jealous or envious, ill will in general
K♦ + 8♠ = critical moment at work
K♦ + 8♠ + Q♠ and or J♠ = mobbing
8♠ + 5♠R = great inner pain, with other cards it might show certain types of mental illness
6♠ + 8♠ = tormented hopes falling through | one who just can’t let go and is in a crisis as a result

8♠R + 4♦ = traditionally, leg paralysis (but two cards are not enough. Here the 4♦ is the wheelchair while the 8♠ is the legs) | a skewed sense of reality and of self
2♣R + 8♠R = extreme arrogance, feeling like you are owed the world
8♠R + 7♠ = picking fights | an accident | a volatile temperament, a loose cannon
8♠R + 9♦ = also someone to stay well away from


8♠R + 5♦ = the woe is me type
8♠R + 7♦ = being infantile and capricious | a small accident
10♣ + 8♠R = utter carelessness in your behavior, usually motivated by an inflated ego | carelessness causing an accident
8♠R + 8♥ + 10♣ = getting into flirtatious situations to prove something to yourself

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Vera Sibilla and Numerology – The Eights

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The Eights in the Vera Sibilla are a natural continuation of the sevens. They represent the concept of balance and evolution toward balance. If you look at the number 8, you’ll see that it’s made up of two loops, which represent the inside or inner world and the outside or outer world. One of the two loops is represented by the “intention” set forth by the number seven, while the other loop represents whether or not that intention finds actual expression in reality.

The Eights in the Vera Sibilla: The Eight of Hearts (Hope), The Eight of Clubs (Reunion), The Eight of Diamonds (Handmaid) and the Eight of Spades (Jealousy)

The Eight of Hearts, Hope, is connected with the realization of one’s expectations and dreams. At its best, this card shows things going as hoped, at its worst, when it ends a negative sequence, the Eight of Hearts promises us that all will be well anyway and things will evolve in a positive direction.

The two “loops” that make up the number eight are, in this case, in perfect balance: inner and outer are as one. As such, aside from showing the realization of hopes, this is the card that represents clairvoyant abilities, dreams and faith as a whole, as these are manifestations of the concrete reality of our inner world.

The Eight of Spades, Consumed with Jealousy, is by far the most interesting card in the deck. In the Italian title, the word “Disperato” actually means “desperate”, not consumed. Desperation is the opposite of Hope. And, indeed, the two images convey opposite ideas.

Let’s look at the two cards. On one hand, a young woman is gazing confidently in the distance. She is poised and dignified, and there is a sense of peace, of perspective, of having a future in front of us that is clear and peaceful. Her titties out to the wind don’t exactly scream insecurity, if I may add. The connection of this card with the element of water can also be interpreted as things flowing smoothly and calmly, which is itself an extension of the eight-ish idea of balance, understood as our inner wishes flowing out and permeating reality.

On the other hand we have one of the most disturbing images in the history of cartomancy: a guy who has lost all sense of perspective and all hope for the future, whose life has stopped flowing smoothly and who finds himself at a desperate turning point, and he’s about to possibly end his own life. Not someone you’d ask to look after the kids while you are out shopping.

This is the card of crisis, of the world closing in on you, of oppression and lack of positive ways out of this impasse (at least, unless other cards show otherwise). This card behaves as a landmine that our hopes and desires step onto while on the way toward realization. Here, the two loops of the number eight are imbalanced with one another. This imbalance can also be understood not just as unfulfilled hope or crisis, but also as negative hope, hence the card’s connection with envy, slander etc.

In between Spades and Hearts we have the Eight of Clubs, the Reunion and the Eight of Diamonds, the Handmaid, which represent evolution toward balance in two opposite senses. The Eight of Clubs is the card of the positive evolution toward a good conclusion, but it implies either a previous upset or a previous distance.

This is the card that can show winning a court case, which implies the upset of having gone through a trial, it’s the card of the date or meeting, which implies being apart (otherwise we wouldn’t be able to meet), it’s the card of reconciliation, which implies break-up, it’s the card of healing, which implies illness, it’s the card of getting back the money you’ve lent, which implies a previous parting with your money. In general, this card represents an evolution leading us back to a previous balance that has been interrupted, and a positive offsetting of the situation as a whole.

The Eight of Diamonds, The Handmaid, is also a card of evolution, but one that doesn’t necessarily lead us back: it’s an evolution that leads us forward toward a new equilibrium (or lack thereof). It is said that this card, when it falls in the spread without any specific reason, heralds new phases in life, and we must always look where the young woman is going.

The staircase she’s climbing is a symbol for improvement, expansion, growth. As such, this is one of the cards representing nobility, refinement, good manners and climbing up the social ladder. The evolution here is therefore not intended as a re-establishment of a former positive situation as the Reunion (Re-union) often implies, but rather as a building on what is already there to reach a new equilibrium. Note that the handmaid is also the card of offers and money, things and situations being given to us: the new equilibrium or balance may be coming toward us from the outside.